Dec 21 2012

Dec 21 2012

by Liv Published on November 10th, 2009, 4:58 pm Rift: X

Hey I'm just tellin ya what I'm hearing out there......

This 2012 stuff is serious business among the masses, and I imagine the threat level goes to red once everyone gets together, eats turkey, and talks about the end of days.

[A Person]

Yeah, that's what bothers me.

It's not even as if I could make money out of it like the Y2K thing. No one who believes it is going to care if their systems keep going

[Liv]

Yeah, that's what bothers me.

It's not even as if I could make money out of it like the Y2K thing. No one who believes it is going to care if their systems keep going

We could always latch on to the "Atheists providing dog care after Rapture" franchise thing....

[BecauseHeLives]

Yeah, that's what bothers me.

It's not even as if I could make money out of it like the Y2K thing. No one who believes it is going to care if their systems keep going

Ya... I made some big bucks on the Y2K thingy.... LOL

[Karma Singh]

I've had a few conversations lately with some acquaintances, and the overall concensus is that "scientists" came to the conclusion of this 2012 date.... and yes they're taking it as serious real, though the more sain individuals are writing it off but still being cautious.

Good morning everyone (unless you're in Australasia of course). The problem with 2012 is purely one of orientation and not of cataclysmic upheavals of the Earth's structure.

You see, for the last 2500 years, mankind has been generally orientated towards the physical (yes, I do know that there are exceptions so please don't waste electrons by posting about them). The plain fact is that "The Age of Materialism" is what we're talking about. To a people focussed in that orientation, "the end of the World as we know it" gets interpreted as earthquakes, volcanoes, giant asteroids hitting the Earth and the end of Mickey Mouse.

Looking around us, however, we see overwhelming evidence of something completely different. The nature of mankind's consciousness is changing! Anyone over 35 must certainly have noticed the changes within their own lifetime. That which, 25 years ago, would have been the subject of an investigation by the department of mental health is now commonplace. A large minority if not already the majority of mankind has no problem with accepting the existence of the human energy fields. Thirty years ago, claiming that they exist would, in some places, have resulted in compulsory psychiatric treatment. The change has been so marked that some universities now have departments investigating the nature of these fields; their existence have long been scientifically proven.

In general, we see a reorientation of mankind from the physical to the spiritual. This is what is meant by "the end of the World as we know it".

As to the question why the Mayans stopped their calendar at the Winter Solstice 2012 (when the extremely rare "Grand Alignment" of the planets occurs) has nothing whatsoever to do with disaster but with humility!

The Mayans used their calendar primarily for astrological purposes. The Grand Alignment heralds the new orientation. They chose not to presume to make any prediction as to how a much more conscious humanity would behave.

2012 is not about cataclysm but about the awakening of humanity.

Blessed be

Karma Singh
http://www.youtube.com/karmahealer

[Liv]

awakening of humanity.

Someone from Europe who thinks us Americans can be "Awakened"? Has someone just got home from a pub-crawl? A bit too much Whiskey in the beans this morning?

Heck we can't even get people over here to understand why not dying by having health care is a good idea, you think American's who think Obama is the anti-christ and behind the 2012 Doomsday prophecy are ready for spiritual awakening?

Ha! I want some of what he's drinking!

[Karma Singh]

awakening of humanity.

Someone from Europe who thinks us Americans can be "Awakened"? Has someone just got home from a pub-crawl? A bit too much Whiskey in the beans this morning?

Heck we can't even get people over here to understand why not dying by having health care is a good idea, you think American's who think Obama is the anti-christ and behind the 2012 Doomsday prophecy are ready for spiritual awakening?

Ha! I want some of what he's drinking!

Well, thank you for the kind thoughts but, at this time of the afternoon, it's green tea and organic coffee.

I have actually met an awakened American who assures me that there are going to be a lot more. Friends of yours?

Blessed be

Karma

[A Person]

Good grief the Yorkshire pudding returns!

In general, we see a reorientation of mankind from the physical to the spiritual. This is what is meant by "the end of the World as we know it".

That would be a problem for someone who makes a living conning material possessions from people. Clearly you have forgotten the Victorian obsession with spiritualism. That was also a time of great societal change and innovation and the con artists rose to feed on the gullible.

Spiritualists hover like parasites on the edges of science, picking up and misusing sciency sounding words (like energy fields, quantum and oscillation technologies) to lend an aura of authenticity to their fraudulent claims and to mislead the punters. At the same time as they pursue material wealth they decry real science as being too 'material'.

Woo comes and goes, it becomes popular for a while and then declines. Quacks and con-artists are always there to sell magic water and plastic stickers for material gain while perverting the scientific lexicon of the day.

[Liv]

Apparently this guy is "dumbfounded" with the overload of questions coming into Nasa. Griffith Observatory is overwhelmed about people and their fears of the 2012 end date, and people are already planning on killing themselves prior to the day so they don't have to suffer.

[A Person]

Maybe if they do top themselves there's hope for the human race.

Here's a wonderful example of the genre
They take a legitimate article from NASA about sunspot cycles

"Many forecasters believe Solar Cycle 24 will be big and intense. Peaking in 2011 or 2012, the cycle to come could have significant impacts on telecommunications, air traffic, power grids and GPS systems. (And don't forget the Northern Lights!) In this age of satellites and cell phones, the next solar cycle could make itself felt as never before."

And twist that to say

I find it quite a coincidence that this major happening is forecasted for 2012, as this exact timing correlates to the ancient Mayan prediction of the end of the dimension.

Doh.

In any case NASA have updated their prediction

An international panel of experts has released a new prediction for the next solar cycle, stating that Solar Cycle 24 will peak in May 2013 with a below-average number of sunspots. Led by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) and sponsored by NASA, the panel includes a dozen members from nine different government and academic institutions. Their forecast sets the stage for at least another year of mostly quiet conditions before solar activity resumes in earnest.

"If our prediction is correct, Solar Cycle 24 will have a peak sunspot number of 90, the lowest of any cycle since 1928 when Solar Cycle 16 peaked at 78," says panel chairman Doug Biesecker of the NOAA Space Weather Prediction Center, Boulder, Colo.

I'm looking forward to it. I haven't seen good aurora displays for about 8 years now.

[SouthernFriedInfidel]

Apparently this guy is "dumbfounded" with the overload of questions coming into Nasa. Griffith Observatory is overwhelmed about people and their fears of the 2012 end date, and people are already planning on killing themselves prior to the day so they don't have to suffer.

This is the sad result of what happens when people let their minds be too heavily influenced by myths. They make bad decisions... too often fatally bad.

[SouthernFriedInfidel]

Oh boy -- Brewster Rockit is going to have some fun with this topic this week:

[Sanjuro]

That was basically Pen and Teller's joke about it months ago..

"The story is that the Mayan calendar ends on 2012, and thus so will the world. Well, according to the calendar on my wall, the world is going to end on Dec 31 this year..."

[SouthernFriedInfidel]

That was basically Pen and Teller's joke about it months ago..

"The story is that the Mayan calendar ends on 2012, and thus so will the world. Well, according to the calendar on my wall, the world is going to end on Dec 31 this year..."

It simply amazes me how many people get so scared by something this stupid. I looked at the FAQ page that NASA put up in response to the stream of questions they are getting. I'd laugh at it if I could believe that the questions were coming from a small number of people.

But I know that the number of people who are ignorant of matters astronomical is rather huge. So that anyone with a modicum of knowledge and effort could easily fool a LOT of people into thinking that the sky is getting ready to fall. But what puzzles me is that these people refuse to listen to those who DO have formal training and who state clearly and unambiguously that nothing special is in the works, astronomically. It's like they WANT to be scared.

[SouthernFriedInfidel]

The UN expects that Iran will start enriching uranium in 2011 at its once-secret nuke plant. Can it be a coincidence that this will happen only ONE YEAR before the 2012 prediction of apocageddon?!???!!11!!??

[A Person]

Have you ever seen a film where the mainstream scientists (who always work for some branch of guvmint) are right?

It's always the lone hero working by himself who is privy to the Truth. It's a compelling theme for a film*, but hardly reality. Unfortunately for a great many people Hollywood IS reality

* "The comet will hit the Earth - we must send a team of roughnecks to blow it up" "No it won't, see all this NASA data proves otherwise, and besides roughnecks are known for their cocaine use, toughness and willingness to work neck deep in crap, not for any skills" "Oh, what shall we do for the rest of the film? Beer anyone?"

Doesn't make for an entertaining film

[Liv]

[SouthernFriedInfidel]

How many times have we seen predictions of global disaster based on "alignment of planets"? I recall at least 6 or 7 such piles of nonsense in my lifetime. Myself, I'm looking forward to the week-ling onset of the next Ice Age as predicted by the movie "The Day After Tomorrow." Especially because in the final shot of Earth from space, it showed North Carolina as having like a foot of snow from the whole thing.

[A Person]

like this one from BHL made on Thu Mar 15, 2007 which takes us conveniently to 2012

Yet... it (the rapture) will happen.

I see it happening within the next few years. Very likely less than 5 years from now. It doesn't have to be but that's what I'm thinking.

I'm quite looking forward to it.

[Liv]

Anyone gather a guess as to what the next "doomsday" date will be after this one? Maybe we should start one?

I seem to recall a doomsday comet around 2025... but that's too long away.... CGI will have advanced a lot by then.