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Researchers find Bigfoot... Or a Chewbacca costume

PostPosted: August 13th, 2008, 12:05 pm
by Sanjuro
Well some local yokal "Bigfoot investigators" have found what they claim is bigfoot.

http://www.ktvu.com/news/17174989/detail.html

PALO ALTO, Calif. -- It’s more than 7-feet tall. Weighs over 500 pounds and walked upright -- three "Bigfoot" seekers, including a Redwood City man, Wednesday claimed they have proof that they have found the body of the elusive creature in the wilds of Georgia.

And on Friday, at a news conference in Palo Alto, they say they will present DNA evidence to prove the carcass of “Rickmat” is that of a bigfoot.

Matthew Whitton and Rick Dyer, Georgia residents who lead Bigfoot-tracking expeditions, say they found the body of what appears to be a Bigfoot in the woods of northern Georgia and will join local Bigfoot researcher Tom Biscardi at the news conference, according to Robert Barrows, who is publicizing the event.

Among the creatures's other physical characteristics of the body -- according to the hunters website -- http://www.searchingforbigfoot.com/ -- were flat feet similar to human feet. Its footprint is 16 ¾ inches long and the length from palm to tip of the middle finger is 11 ½ inches long.

"I think you'll find that this is the real deal," Barrows said of the alleged discovery.

Whitton, a police officer in Clayton County, and Dyer, a former correctional officer, are not saying exactly where the body was found or where it is now, Barrows said.

Biscardi, a veteran Bigfoot tracker who said he went to Georgia to view the find over the weekend, said DNA tests are being conducted and a team of scientists will study the body, but declined to name any scientists involved.

Officials from the Georgia Department of Natural Resources Wildlife Resources Division said the largest wildlife they are aware of in the state are black bears and white-tail deer.


Hmmm.
"...tests are being conducted and a team of scientists will study the body, but declined to name any scientists involved" and "are not saying exactly where the body was found or where it is now"

I'm declaring a pre-emptive "shenanigans" on this whole thing.

Here are the pics:

bf-head-small.jpg
thawed-creature-in-freezer1.jpg

creature-frozen-in-ice.jpg


Yeah.. so its a decomposed bear, or pig guts in a chewbacca costume. All DNA will tell you is what it is NOT. I mean, there is no Bigfoot DNA to compare it against.

Re: Researchers find Bigfoot... Or a Chewbacca costume

PostPosted: August 13th, 2008, 6:04 pm
by Liv
Mmmmm.... tasty.

Re: Researchers find Bigfoot... Or a Chewbacca costume

PostPosted: August 14th, 2008, 7:15 am
by Sanjuro
Hmm... looking more and more like a Chewbacca costume... (what a shock)

http://bigfootdiscussions.invisionzone. ... 2944&st=20

Re: Researchers find Bigfoot... Or a Chewbacca costume

PostPosted: August 14th, 2008, 7:59 am
by Liv
Weird family... the one guy refuses to sit.

Bigfoot Proven to be a Hoax

PostPosted: August 16th, 2008, 7:33 am
by RebelSnake
http://news.aol.com/article/scientist-says-bigfoot-fails-dna-test/136118?icid=200100397x1207763572x1200389870
Scientist Says 'Bigfoot' Fails DNA TestReuters
posted: 5 HOURS 50 MINUTES AGOcomments: 22filed under: Science News, Weird NewsPrintShareText SizeAAAPALO ALTO, California (Aug. 15) - Bigfoot remains as elusive as ever.
Results from tests on genetic material from alleged remains of one of the mythical half-ape and half-human creatures, made public at a news conference on Friday held after the claimed discovery swept the Internet, failed to prove its existence.
Bigfoot Legend Lives OnKimberly White, ReutersTom Biscardi, head of a group called Searching for Bigfoot, backs the claims of two men who say they discovered remains from Bigfoot. At a press conference in Palo Alto, Calif., Friday he holds a photo that he says shows the mouth of Bigfoot.


Its spread was fueled by a photograph of a hairy heap, bearing a close resemblance to a shaggy full-body gorilla costume, stuffed into a container resembling a refrigerator.
One of the two samples of DNA said to prove the existence of the Bigfoot came from a human and the other was 96 percent from an opossum, according to Curt Nelson, a scientist at the University of Minnesota who performed the DNA analysis.
Bigfoot creatures are said to live in the forests of the U.S. Pacific Northwest. An opossum is a marsupial about the size of a house cat.
Results of the DNA tests were revealed in an e-mail from Nelson and distributed at the Palo Alto, California, news conference held by Tom Biscardi, host of a weekly online radio show about the Bigfoot.
Also present were Matthew Whitton and Rick Dyer, the two who say they discovered the Bigfoot corpse while hiking in the woods of northern Georgia. They also are co-owners of a company that offers Bigfoot merchandise.
Despite the dubious photo and the commercial interests of the alleged discoverers, the Bigfoot claim drew interest from Australia to Europe and even The New York Times.
Biscardi said the DNA samples may not have been taken correctly and may have been contaminated, and that he would proceed with an autopsy of the alleged Bigfoot remains, currently in a freezer at an undisclosed location.


Failed a DNA test?? 96% opossum?? What a shock. :roll:

Re: Bigfoot Proven to be a Hoax

PostPosted: August 16th, 2008, 8:04 am
by The Rain King
RebelSnake wrote:[Failed a DNA test?? 96% opossum?? What a shock. :roll:


So Bigfoot is actually an opossum-human hybrid mutant? Whoa. :shock: Then maybe the one they found isn't really dead, he's just pretending. He could "come back to life" suddenly, and KILL THEM ALL !!!

Re: Bigfoot Proven to be a Hoax

PostPosted: August 16th, 2008, 8:31 am
by Liv
I don't get it. Why go to such effort in the huge press conference yesterday announcing the big foot? Why invite numerous news media to come view the big foot corpse?

Seriously it's all a big joke????

Re: Bigfoot Proven to be a Hoax

PostPosted: August 16th, 2008, 9:58 am
by The Rain King
Liv wrote:I don't get it. Why go to such effort in the huge press conference yesterday announcing the big foot? Why invite numerous news media to come view the big foot corpse?
Seriously it's all a big joke????


Yep.

Re: Bigfoot Proven to be a Hoax

PostPosted: August 16th, 2008, 4:07 pm
by SouthernFriedInfidel
Liv wrote:I don't get it. Why go to such effort in the huge press conference yesterday announcing the big foot? Why invite numerous news media to come view the big foot corpse?

Seriously it's all a big joke????

I have a guess on that. These guys are working on the mindset of the Bigfoot believers. They know that there is a large number of people out there who will believe they have a real "bigfoot" creature, and that these people will believe it's true, regardless of the evidence. To that group of people, these fellows will be famous, and heroes. If nothing else, they'll have several years of going to Bigfoot conventions, getting free booze and perhaps other benefits.

For those who have the stomach for fooling fools, it could be a pretty sweet life.

Re: Bigfoot Proven to be a Hoax

PostPosted: August 16th, 2008, 6:23 pm
by The Rain King
SouthernFriedInfidel wrote:I have a guess on that. These guys are working on the mindset of the Bigfoot believers. They know that there is a large number of people out there who will believe they have a real "bigfoot" creature, and that these people will believe it's true, regardless of the evidence. To that group of people, these fellows will be famous, and heroes. If nothing else, they'll have several years of going to Bigfoot conventions, getting free booze and perhaps other benefits.
For those who have the stomach for fooling fools, it could be a pretty sweet life.


Never considered that angle. Yeah, you're right. Look at Loren Coleman, etc. And that collection of nuts who STILL think there's a Face on Mars. Well, Barnum said it best.

Re: Bigfoot Proven to be a Hoax

PostPosted: August 16th, 2008, 6:33 pm
by Liv
But then why submit DNA evidence?

Re: Bigfoot Proven to be a Hoax

PostPosted: August 16th, 2008, 6:42 pm
by The Rain King
Liv wrote:But then why submit DNA evidence?


Doesn't matter. They can always claim conspiracy, faulty testing, etc. You're being too intelligent here, babe. :wink: These people don't need proof and those jokers knew damn well they didn't have any. The whole point was the attention.

I mean, they finally carbon-tested the Shroud of Turin, and it hasn't really settled anything for those who want to believe, has it? They still keep lining up.

Re: Bigfoot Proven to be a Hoax

PostPosted: August 16th, 2008, 7:42 pm
by SouthernFriedInfidel
Liv wrote:But then why submit DNA evidence?

Once again, I think it's playing to the paranoid fringe that is the Bigfoot community. They'll see the results as just another instance of the bad old close-minded scientists covering up the obvious proof that bigfoot creatures live all over the world ... where we can't find 'em.

Re: Bigfoot Proven to be a Hoax

PostPosted: August 17th, 2008, 9:18 am
by The Rain King
SouthernFriedInfidel wrote:
Liv wrote:But then why submit DNA evidence?

Once again, I think it's playing to the paranoid fringe that is the Bigfoot community. They'll see the results as just another instance of the bad old close-minded scientists covering up the obvious proof that bigfoot creatures live all over the world ... where we can't find 'em.


And on that note:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/08/15/bigfoot.body/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

Re: Bigfoot Proven to be a Hoax

PostPosted: August 17th, 2008, 9:26 am
by Liv
I'm curious. Based on the comments in this thread, it appears several of you are not only skeptical of this "big foot" claim, but the existence of the species in general?

Am I correct in saying that?

Because I tend to lean the other way, and curious what drives those skepticisms?

Re: Bigfoot Proven to be a Hoax

PostPosted: August 17th, 2008, 9:50 am
by The Rain King
Liv wrote:I'm curious. Based on the comments in this thread, it appears several of you are not only skeptical of this "big foot" claim, but the existence of the species in general?
Am I correct in saying that?
Because I tend to lean the other way, and curious what drives those skepticisms?


Why am I skeptical of their claim? I think this pretty much covers that. Be sure to read the "More Info":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsJNpPM7_G0&feature=related

As to why I'm skeptical of the existence of the species in general, it's because all of the "evidence" for such has always been anecdotal or along the lines of the current nonsense. I'll believe when somebody catches a live one, or a team of reputable scientists get to examine a dead one and they all conclude that it's genuine.
I'm curious as why you lean the other way. Are you aware of some sort of conclusive scientific evidence for the existence of such a species?

Re: Bigfoot Proven to be a Hoax

PostPosted: August 17th, 2008, 10:11 am
by Liv
Well for me, there appears to be alot of "partial" evidence out there. Like smudged finger prints, we can't identify what's going on, just that something seems to be going on. I admit, It could be completely a legend, but based on the fact we identified that new species of giant squid (or was it octopus?) less then a few years ago, and previously had never had any proof, It really is no shock to me, that suck a creature exists.

I also think we must be cautious in using DNA evidence as a prerequisite for definitive proof. It very well could be humanoid DNA, but an isolated sect of human with overly hairy, tall genetics... Much the way the Asians are short, Swedish are tall, or Africans are black.

I think it's too early too judge any claim, and certainly if I was trying to create a hoax, I wouldn't provide DNA evidence.

We do need to see a body though. Hopefully we will...

I'd love to see this legend authenticated, or concluded as a hoax, before the news drifts away from it...

Re: Bigfoot Proven to be a Hoax

PostPosted: August 20th, 2008, 6:22 am
by Liv
I finally caught last night on Fox, where they thawed the chest and found a rubbery suit.

Supposedly the guy who is actually a cop on administrative leave is being fired because he administrated a hoax.

Re: Bigfoot Proven to be a Hoax

PostPosted: August 23rd, 2008, 1:01 am
by Nfidel
Bigfoot Hoaxers Say It Was Just A Joke, say you should have known better. And you should have.

Re: Bigfoot Proven to be a Hoax

PostPosted: August 23rd, 2008, 8:51 am
by Liv
Isn't that part of joking... Someone willing to get caught up in it? I did, and enjoyed the ride... I don't think I could have taken it to the level they did, but Bravo!