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U.K., having solved all other issues...

PostPosted: January 27th, 2008, 1:44 pm
by Matt
So they spend time and money regulating the thickness of bread slices.

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/display. ... _of_it.php

In the thick of it
By Saiqa Chaudhari

SOME may say the idea is two sandwiches short of a picnic.

But the House of Lords has been listening with interest to a call for thick slices of bread to be cut down to size.

Thick bread equals thick waistlines, according to Baroness Gardener of Parkes, who told the Lords of her concern that the width of a standard slice was getting thicker.

It was, she added, contributing to the problem of people becoming overweight and she wants to see a return to "normal" sized slices.

But is it the best idea since sliced bread? People in Bolton didn't think so.

University of Bolton student student Zoey Tattersall, aged 20, of Great Lever, said: "There are worse foods on the markets, like fast food.

"People should be allowed to eat what they want, but it should be in moderation.

"Thick bread is tastier and makes better toast and is part of a healthy diet."

Fellow University of Bolton student Mary Hulme, aged 23, of Tonge Moor, said: "Can those in Westminster not actually put in place real policies to help? I have always eaten thick bread and it has done me no harm.

"If they are concerned about childhood obesity, then make available things for young people to do which are not expensive.

"It is ridiculous that thick bread has been mentioned. Are we to be told not to use butter and jam too?"

Baroness Gardener spoke during a House of Lords debate on childhood obesity.

In Bolton, just over 25 per cent of four and five-year-olds, and nearly 30 per cent of 10 and 11-year-olds are classed as overweight or obese.

Baroness Gardener said: "I speak as a member of the All-Party Group on Obesity. Why is it that in central London you can hardly find a thinly sliced or medium-sliced load of bread to buy, and any sandwich you buy in any supermarket is now made with thick bread?

"While the House of Lords continues to use medium-sliced bread - and very nice bread - in its sandwiches, even the House of Commons has moved to thick bread.

"Surely at a time when we want to reduce people's consumption, there should be more pressure from the Food Standards Agency, or one of the many departments the Minister speaks about, to take us back to normal-sized bread instead of these super-sized sandwiches."

Bakers hit back at the comments saying bread was a vital part of a healthy diet. Gordon Polson, director of the Federation of Bakers, said: "British bakers provide consumers with bread sliced to all thickness and offer a huge variety from seeded to prebiotic loaves.

"No matter what the recipe or how thick the slices are, bread is an important part of a healthy diet.

"The Food Standards Agency advises that starchy foods like bread should make up a third of the food we eat as they are a good source of energy. But bread also contains calcium, fibre, iron and B vitamins, essential for a healthy diet.

"Bread itself is not fattening - toast for breakfast is a great start to the day or a sandwich with a lean protein filling is the perfect healthy snack."

Bolton-based baker Warburtons who make an "Our Thickest Slice" loaf, declined to comment.

Re: U.K., having solved all other issues...

PostPosted: January 27th, 2008, 2:00 pm
by BecauseHeLives
Those crazy Europeans. That would make me want to immigrate to America right there. How dare they.

But Liv would probably like it. :)

Re: U.K., having solved all other issues...

PostPosted: January 27th, 2008, 2:23 pm
by Liv
Actually I just recently had to switch to Wheat since I'm dying from American obesity... Too bad no one told me sooner.... Too bad I'm American.... To bad....

Re: U.K., having solved all other issues...

PostPosted: January 27th, 2008, 2:37 pm
by Matt
Liv wrote:Actually I just recently had to switch to Wheat since I'm dying from American obesity... Too bad no one told me sooner.... Too bad I'm American.... To bad....


Too bad you need a government to tell not to eat fast food and deep fried cheese. Of course when you have heart disease, you'll be screaming for free health care because you couldn't take care of yourself.

Re: U.K., having solved all other issues...

PostPosted: January 27th, 2008, 3:55 pm
by Liv
I don't need anything.

But would prefer for capitalistic America not to drug me and rape me with their unhealthy, yet addictive money making products.

Re: U.K., having solved all other issues...

PostPosted: January 27th, 2008, 4:00 pm
by Matt
Liv wrote:I don't need anything.

But would prefer for capitalistic America not to drug me and rape me with their unhealthy, yet addictive money making products.


Yea... they forced you to.

Re: U.K., having solved all other issues...

PostPosted: January 27th, 2008, 4:07 pm
by Liv
Yea... they forced you to.

Do you really think your free? Free when you walk into McDonalds, or the Supermarket, a dealership, a wal-mart? You're only free to make the choices they give you. One must eat, what is on the menu... or within the supermarket... one has no more or no less choices then what cars the government approves for you to buy from, or what items appear in a department store.

I cannot sit here and explain the psychological, and physical bonds a government such as ours place upon it's citizens.

I could half way accept it, if the majority of people understood this... it's the fact that most people believe they're free, only because they've been told it, only because they've never questioned it, that make someone like me question how un-free we actually are.

Re: U.K., having solved all other issues...

PostPosted: January 27th, 2008, 4:13 pm
by Matt
stay out of Mac-Ds. Stick to the produce sections of the supermarket. Lots more choices there and a much cheaper in the short and long term.

Re: U.K., having solved all other issues...

PostPosted: January 27th, 2008, 4:23 pm
by Liv
Hey Matt!!! At Walmart.. (like you've never been there?) the doughnut section is IN the produce section!!!!

Re: U.K., having solved all other issues...

PostPosted: January 27th, 2008, 4:37 pm
by BecauseHeLives
Liv wrote:
Yea... they forced you to.

Do you really think your free? Free when you walk into McDonalds, or the Supermarket, a dealership, a wal-mart? You're only free to make the choices they give you. One must eat, what is on the menu... or within the supermarket... one has no more or no less choices then what cars the government approves for you to buy from, or what items appear in a department store.

I cannot sit here and explain the psychological, and physical bonds a government such as ours place upon it's citizens.

I could half way accept it, if the majority of people understood this... it's the fact that most people believe they're free, only because they've been told it, only because they've never questioned it, that make someone like me question how un-free we actually are.


I sure would like to hear of this mythical place you speak of where everything really is free.

Re: U.K., having solved all other issues...

PostPosted: January 27th, 2008, 4:51 pm
by Matt
Liv wrote:Hey Matt!!! At Walmart.. (like you've never been there?) the doughnut section is IN the produce section!!!!


Then go to a different store.

Re: U.K., having solved all other issues...

PostPosted: January 27th, 2008, 6:28 pm
by Liv
BecauseHeLives wrote:I sure would like to hear of this mythical place you speak of where everything really is free.


Never said one existed... But there are places with out the sales pitch.

Matt wrote:
Then go to a different store.


That was a joke Matt. Apparently I'm a grotesque 900LB lard swallowing bed-ridden sloth who eats everything in sight in your opinion.

Want to arm-wrestle?

Re: U.K., having solved all other issues...

PostPosted: January 27th, 2008, 6:43 pm
by Serendipitous
*walks in* :?
*reads* :shock:
*walks out* :|

Re: U.K., having solved all other issues...

PostPosted: January 27th, 2008, 7:19 pm
by Matt
Liv wrote:
BecauseHeLives wrote:I sure would like to hear of this mythical place you speak of where everything really is free.


Never said one existed... But there are places with out the sales pitch.

Matt wrote:
Then go to a different store.


That was a joke Matt. Apparently I'm a grotesque 900LB lard swallowing bed-ridden sloth who eats everything in sight in your opinion.

Want to arm-wrestle?


you might be. You might not be. How would I know? I only can form opinion with your endless droning how life has supposedly treated you wrong.

Re: U.K., having solved all other issues...

PostPosted: January 27th, 2008, 7:41 pm
by Liv
Matt wrote:you might be. You might not be. How would I know? I only can form opinion with your endless droning how life has supposedly treated you wrong.


I am... Sadly... I'm eating while I type this... ...Ooops I dropped a crumb... Must lick keyboard....


saldjaidjoajdoiasjod

Re: U.K., having solved all other issues...

PostPosted: January 27th, 2008, 7:43 pm
by Matt
And you'll blame Macdonald's for your keyboard shorting out. Can your fingers still type one key at a time?

Re: U.K., having solved all other issues...

PostPosted: January 27th, 2008, 7:52 pm
by Liv
McDonalds! I wish...

Unfortunately all I have is some bark I peeled of the tree outside.

Re: U.K., having solved all other issues...

PostPosted: January 27th, 2008, 8:50 pm
by Serendipitous
*walks back in*

:roll:

*plugs ears*

la la la la la la la

Re: U.K., having solved all other issues...

PostPosted: January 27th, 2008, 10:26 pm
by A Person
Serendipitous wrote:*walks back in*

:roll:

*plugs ears*

la la la la la la la
Aw come on in and see if you can get Matt's head to explode. All you have to do is find a button and press it. He has buttons everywhere just to make it easy.

Re: U.K., having solved all other issues...

PostPosted: January 27th, 2008, 10:38 pm
by Matt
floss.

What happened to "I lost someone, say whatever you want"? You get that blow-up doll repaired or something?

Is American Foods Keeping us Fat?

PostPosted: April 19th, 2008, 5:11 pm
by Liv
Why is America fat? (I humbly include myself in that.) Is it self-control, lack of exercise, or something else?

Maybe it's the system itself, one that enables individuals to have the majority of choices be full of fat and sugar? Will-power can take some people only so far. What if these same companies in other countries were producing healthier options, and it's consumers less fat because of it? Shouldn't a company if it can make a less fattening version of it's food, do so everywhere?

I wanted to write about this the moment we landed in the U.K., but unfortunately I was so starved I ate everything before I could snap some pictures. I did save these:
pringles.jpg



The one on the left.... Purchased at Heathrow the night before leaving, the second can, an American can my mother left while we were gone. Now first let me assure you I did check, and the flavoring has very little to do with any difference. In fact here's a couple of figures directly from their sites:

Pringles UK: (Original)
Portion: 25g
Fat: 9g

Pringles US: (Original)
Portion 28g
Fat: 11g

Okay, maybe not the best example, and with just that I might not have a point. The minor difference in portions might impact the rounding of numbers. After all, my can of UK Sour Creme and onion says 8.8, but the website says 8.5, the US version is 10g. But again if you eat by the portioning, you are eating less.

Someone on Greensboring warned me about soda cans being an ounce less. Indeed I did perceive this upon buying my first U.K. 6 pack of diet coke. It's little things like this that seems to add up to make a huge difference. One night I ate a Big Mac. I don't really eat alot of them here, but I just wanted to see if they're different. Remarkably this was the first thing I tasted that tasted like it's U.S. counterpart. I noticed however the beef seemed to be very different. Much thinner. In fact the U.K. Big Mac is 5 grams less fat then our American version? 5 grams is alot, ask any dieter. Why can't McDonald's do the same thing over here is beyond me?

I of course already mentioned my Dominos experience with it's less fat version of pizza. It's not that there is really any smoking gun here, just a general observation that makes me wonder why it's not being done here? Sure some might argue getting an ounce less coke is a rip-off, but generally I never noticed the differences in proportions, or fat, I just became curious as I went along. Certainly one can argue, that Brits have their share of clotted creme, and stuffed meat pies, but one can also argue that most convenience stores we visited there had fruit on their aisles. Yes fruit. I can't recall ever seeing fruit as an option in U.S. convenience stores.

The real big interesting thing is even though I was on vacation, and not following any diet what-so-ever, I ended up losing weight on this vacation. Sure we did alot of walking, but any vacation you actually come back skinnier, is worth investigating.

Re: Is American Foods Keeping us Fat?

PostPosted: April 19th, 2008, 6:09 pm
by Mr. Lucas Brice
Actually, it's: Is American Food Keeping Us Fat?

...because foods isn't a word.

Best regards,
Mr. Lucas Brice
Author of the bestseller, Are American Schools Keeping Us Dumb?

Re: Is American Foods Keeping us Fat?

PostPosted: April 19th, 2008, 6:17 pm
by A Person
Liv wrote:Pringles UK: (Original)
Portion: 25g
Fat: 9g

Pringles US: (Original)
Portion 28g
Fat: 11g

Okay, maybe not the best example

No it's not. The pringles have virtually the same fat per gram. The serving size is different only because the US measure is 1oz rounded to the nearest gram and the UK one is 25 grams. lets face it - no one measures out 25 or 28 grams of Pringles.

Re: Is American Foods Keeping us Fat?

PostPosted: April 19th, 2008, 6:32 pm
by Liv
So explain the Big Mac.

Re: Is American Foods Keeping us Fat?

PostPosted: April 19th, 2008, 8:15 pm
by Serendipitous
Portions - this week I got a meal at Applebee's and commented on the portion of french fries. :shock: It filled half the plate. It was sofa king huge!!! Realistically, that was enough fries for four people, and if you grew up with a mom like mine who always reminded the kids that there were starving kids in the world and we needed to "clean our plates" instead of wasting food, that makes it pretty easy to over-eat, get fat, stay fat... :cry: Hmm, am I blaming the parents??? :?