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Postby Liv » Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:41 pm

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American propaganda or are we really the best nation on Earth?
[/floatr]This will clearly be one of those posts where I ask a question, and then go look for the answer. Many of you will probably assume this is an opportunity for me to point out America's shortcomings, but honestly I don't want to. I mean everyone talks about "the American dream", but no one (except myself) talks about the European dream. Is America really better than the rest of the world? I'm certain many people think so, both native and foreign. There's also many who would disagree. From our public television, to our national health-care there are many things to be desired about Europe, but yet there are a lot of things genuinely, and uniquely American which are better. So I figured I'd post those things and Google to see what other people think. I'm quite sure everyone has their own unique perspective on the question "Is America Better", but I'll name a few:

America is better at:

1) Muscle Cars.
2) Comfort Foods and drinks. (Reese's Pieces, Doritos, & Doctor Pepper).
3) Large portions.
4) Freedom**

Okay, technically this isn't going so well. I could list: war, rednecks, religion... but those aren't so positive. Let's see what the other people have to say. Shall we?

Oh This first video I came across is NSFW, but definitely an interesting perspective on all the things that make America better than Europe and the rest of the world:






Politician Eric Cantro has stated:

Are we better than any[one] else because of the exceptional nature of who we are? Yes.


There's also a Facebook page for those who wish to tell the world "America is better.":

http://www.facebook.com/pages/America-B ... 2164672730

To which I draw this excerpt:
Budweiser, fake tits, the V8, Little Debbies, the Fourth of July, all you can eat buffets, Viagra, yeah, America invented all that. Not enough for you? Tell you what, every other country that’s been to the moon raise your hand.

That’s what we thought.



Sarah Palin denies and supports American exceptionalism:

But what do we mean when we say America is an exceptional country? We're not saying we're better than anyone else, or that we have a right to tell other people in other countries how to live their lives. When we say America is exceptional we're saying we are the lucky heirs to a unique set of beliefs and national qualities, and that we need to preserve those values and beliefs.


Glenn Beck believes America's health-care is better:

Americans have a better survival rate for 13 of the 16 most common cancers than Europe. Take prostate cancer: 91.9 percent of men live through it, versus 73.7 percent in France and just 51.1 percent in Britain
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Which makes me wonder if the belief of American exceptionalism, is a conservative-right thing? Which is scary, because super patriotism and overt nationalism is a characteristic of totalitarism.

Of course there are some arguments to the contrary of America's superiority:

As T.R. Reid puts it in The United States of Europe, “Yes, Americans put up huge billboards reading ‘Love Thy Neighbor,’ but they murder and rape their neighbors at rates that would shock any European nation.” cite


One is reminded [with America] of Oliver Goldsmith’s mordant reflections upon an earlier age of private greed and public indifference:

Ill fares the land, to hast’ning ills a prey,

Where wealth accumulates, and men decay.


Some people point to the fact we won the War of Independence (among many wars) and therefore are vastly superior, but I question if all this talk about "America being the greatest country on Earth" isn't our way of trying to prove to ourselves what we want as fact, but question as opinion. Are we insecure as a nation that we need self-gratitude?

But then oddly enough while searching for quotes and data on the subject I did run across several "Britain is Better than America" lists written by Brits, but only one attempt at a America is better than Britain list. Now I might argue that the reason for this is the disconnection or lack of understanding of Europe or Britain. In fact one of bullet points suggested against America being better is the fact many citizens don't have passports. I must say the America is better than Britain list does have some compelling content though, look at #6:

King Ralph. King Ralph was that movie starring John Goodman. It’s about an American who is a descendant of British royalty that is the heir to the Royal thrown after the entire Royal family is electrocuted during a family photo. Outside. In the rain. England is just full of geniuses. Of course, conforming to British standards, King Ralph is a loudmouth, uncouth, slob from America with no social boundaries or redeeming qualities. And of course, you guessed it. Everybody in England is classy and sophisticated. They spend the entire movie trying to make John Goodman conform to British social standards. It’s complete nonsense. cite


I suppose I could go on, but the truth is, wouldn't the deciding factor of what country is better be determined by the citizens happiness? I live in a world called America, home of 24-hour drive-thrus, flat-screen TVs, and SUVs. It's probably heaven to some people, but not to me. Oddly enough, America is one of the least happiest places on earth. We're not even in the top 10. (We did beat the UK, Belgium & France) The question then becomes if happiness doesn't qualify betterness, or exceptionalism, then do we really want to call ourselves "The best country on earth?" I don't.

I think different places fit different people for different reasons. I think this is also the reason for the culture war currently going on in America. Conservatives such as the Tea Party challenging the ever-changing younger America demanding their happiness in place of the conservatives idyllic image of what the country should be. It is a revolution which could decide exactly how much of the country is happy, and ultimately make or break America's image as the best country in the world.
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Postby A Person » Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:53 pm

A quick heads-up on the prostate cancer survival quote.

The prostate cancer statistic is invariably quoted because it is one where the US currently leads - due largely to a successful awareness and screening program that started in the mid 90's and cut the prostate cancer survival rate in half, due to diagnosis at an early stage. Stage diagnosis survival rates are very close between the US & UK.

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The UK is nothing like as bad as 51%. The five year survival rate is increasing as the UK adopts early screening (results for five year survival are always five years in arrears)

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Is cancer survival necessarily doomed by universal government paid health care? No, Cuba does remarkably well with a fraction of the US resources and the rates in Canada for example are very close.

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SourceCancer survival in five continents: a worldwide population-based study (CONCORD)
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Postby Jamy » Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:19 pm

"Better" and "Worse" are such subjective terms. I think that no matter where you live, you take what you like from it and just deal with what you don't. There are things that I love about this country and things that I abhor, but I can say that about any of the other countries I've been to. I guess what it comes down to is picking a place with more likable aspects than unlikeable ones; unfortunately, not everyone has the luxury to pick and choose the country they live in.

Personally, I don't think any "one best" country exists because everyone has their own idea of what is "best."
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Postby Liv » Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:11 am






Loved this!
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