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Postby what time is it? » Fri May 09, 2008 1:37 pm

could america be mystery babylon? we are just as logical a choice as any other participant. i believe our downfall could possibly come from the rapture of the church. face it a great majority of people in the u.s. say they believe in christianity. when the rapture happens, millions will disappear from this country alone. more so than any other country on the planet. so this alone will affect the u.s. more than any other country. all hell will break loose on this country, literally. face it we wont be nuked othewise we'b obliterate the whole planet as a response. terrorist attacks just slow us down. (9/11). so it has to be something amazing and widespread. something so huge we can't recover. economic shutdown from high oil prices is hurting every country not just ours...so i don't believe it will be economic.
this country is going to be judged more harshly than any other out there. we are the richest country by far, our military is the best and our religion is the stongest. those who have much...much more will be required. and by that verse alone in the bible we are failing miserably. prostitution, porn, false prophets, greed.... a person could list sins by the dozens and we'd probably lead that category. not to say every other country doesn't sin, it's just that according to our religion and status in the world we should know better according to the bible. we just don't care. we're in the "it's all about me" generation. we're headed for something amazing biblically. for those of you who are saved and know the Lord in your hearts..congratulations. for those who don't have time or just don't care....just look around. whether you want to believe in Him or not you know something's going on. crack open the bible and read revelation, daniel and isaiah. this is no doubt a road map we're on. step by step we're fulfilling prophecies. you won't hear that on the nightly news. instead you'll only hear scoffing and constant bashing of christianity.
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Postby IgnoranceIsBliss » Sat May 10, 2008 5:47 pm

Rev 17:9-And here [is] the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
Rev 17:5-And upon her forehead [was] a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
Rev 18:17-For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,
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Postby A Person » Sat May 10, 2008 7:36 pm

Here's a crazy idea. Maybe it means Babylon!

You know, the famous city now known as Al Hillah just south of Baghdad.

But John was so high on the magic mushrooms that he could have been referring to his own anus and we wouldn't know.
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Postby IgnoranceIsBliss » Sat May 10, 2008 10:25 pm

A Person wrote:Here's a crazy idea. Maybe it means Babylon!

You know, the famous city now known as Al Hillah just south of Baghdad.

But John was so high on the magic mushrooms that he could have been referring to his own anus and we wouldn't know.

Isn't Al Hillah is only part of Babylon? :?:
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Postby A Person » Sat May 10, 2008 11:40 pm

It's a city partially located on the site of Babylon. Babylon was abandoned after it was sacked by the Greeks in about 274 BCE.

Saddam Hussein started rebuilding the old city in the late 1980's and planned a large pyramid for a palace there.

Now UN and the Iraq government are planning to rebuild it once more

But Iraqi leaders and UN officials are not giving up on it. They are working assiduously to restore Babylon, home to the Hanging Gardens, one of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World. They want to turn it into a cultural center and possibly even an Iraqi theme park.

No one is saying it is going to happen any time soon, but what makes the Pollyannaish project even conceivable is that the area around Babylon is among the safest in Iraq, a beacon of civilization once again in a land of much chaos.

Ancient Babylon, celebrated as a fount of law, writing and urban living, sits just outside the modern city of Hilla, about 100 kilometers, or 60 miles, south of Baghdad. Hilla is neither haunted by Sunni insurgents nor overwhelmed by Shiite militia and, while it is home to both Shiites and Sunnis, it has not been afflicted by the sectarianviolence that has paralyzed so many other parts of Iraq.

Emad Lafta al-Bayati, Hilla's mayor, has big plans for Babylon. "I want restaurants, gift shops, long parking lots," he said. God willing, he added, maybe even a Holiday Inn.


A theme park, restaurants, gift shops, long parking lots and even a Holiday Inn! Sounds suitably whoreish to me.
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Postby NO ONE SPECIAL » Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:42 am

I think that the world is in serious danger weather any one wants to admit it or not and there are a lot of biblical prophecies that have come true. Also the basic life principles of the bible make a lot of sense as far as humanity. For instance God tells us not to have sex outside of marriage and I don't know if any one has noticed but look at how bad our society is now with people having "casual sex" and getting std's and unwanted pregnancies and abortions and all of the adultery. Look at the tv shows and movies they now seem to portray cheating as glamorous and the norm. Men are labeled as players and are uplifted for this! we have talk shows dedicated to these things like Maury. People are really hurt by these things especially children. Look at our children today they're without boundaries and if you have no boundaries how do you know what is right and wrong? children are being raised without fathers because he doesnt want to take responsibility for his actions and I feel a lot of this is due to the acceptance of divorce. When mothers stayed home with the children they learned from their mothers not some person you drop them off with whose values may not be aligned with your own and why is this because of the fact that our country has lost its core values. People base their values on what they want to do and not what is best for themselves or others. Look at the principle of not lying or cheating or stealing no one likes to have any of this happen to them which are a part of God's basic principles. In revelations it talks about the beast with 7 heads and one of which was injured I believe it was referring to the Roman empire the injury indicating it returns. our society is very similar to theirs as far as sex and greed and control. Sex is completely out of control in this country women dress with very little clothing and look up the women who pose naked in magazines and dream of doing the same wishing they could be just like them. This is disgusting and it reminds me a lot of the bath houses in Rome designed for people to come have sex with mutiple people in public just like pornography. Romes downfall was due to economic deterioration just like the us is headed for now with our recession happening and the worst is yet to come. so much money has been dedicated to the military just like in Roman times president Bush took money from transportation and health care and education and diverted it to the military making it the top priority just like in the Roman empire, and who was expected to pay for it taxpayers!! They tried to fix it lowering interest rates and look interest rates are at their all time lows, inflation is through the roof as far as groceries and housing heating our homes etc. in other words people can hardly afford to live anymore and thats what it was like towards the end of the Roman empire. I really hope that anyone who is skeptical at least have an open mind because when Rome didn't know what to do they expanded their borders to raise the amount of taxpaying citizens. When the economy hits it hardest point I think this will open a door for one world government or expansion of our borders. Barack Obama was already talking about government needs to be bigger what else could that mean. Our economys hardships are affecting the entire world and the rest of the world may not have a choice but to do this in order to restore the world's economy. Money is worth less and less especially since they put money into circulation just to get it there when it really has no value to back it up, just like in Roman times when they kept debasementing the money meaning they reduced the amount of precious metal content in their money same concept ours is just on a grander scale. Maybe peole are causing the prophecies themselves but God never said it wouldn't happen that way. Weather you believe it or not open your eyes to what is happening around us our economy and society are decaying. people are evil, selfish, irresponsible, immoral, cruel, and self destructive. people don't believe in God because they don't want to take responsibility for their actions and realize there are consequences weather they are directly affected by them or not. If we are not babylon then I don't know who is because we sure fit the bill. I also believe that television is the false prophet because it is prophesised that is will speak. The tv puts ideas in ours heads and perpetuates the beast through commercials which instill fear that we can't live with out their product and they will help us. I believe that the beast is the market. it is prophesised that we will not be able to purchase land or food with our the mark of the beast which would make sense if every ones wealth was kept on a microchip in our bodies then all of our records will be kept on there making it so we have to use our own identity to purchase the basic needs of survival food and shelter if you arent complying with the beasts policies of this microchip you go without. it would also make sense in the ideology of one world government as to create one world currency that every one could agree on and make it easier to spend money all over the world and cause the whole worlds wealth to be as one. watch for the signs and remember that God will forgive any one for any thing they have done as long as their heart is true.
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Postby daro2096 » Tue Mar 10, 2009 5:07 pm

what time is it? wrote:could america be mystery babylon? we are just as logical a choice as any other participant. i believe our downfall could possibly come from the rapture of the church. face it a great majority of people in the u.s. say they believe in christianity. when the rapture happens, millions will disappear from this country alone. more so than any other country on the planet. so this alone will affect the u.s. more than any other country. all hell will break loose on this country, literally. face it we wont be nuked othewise we'b obliterate the whole planet as a response. terrorist attacks just slow us down. (9/11). so it has to be something amazing and widespread. something so huge we can't recover. economic shutdown from high oil prices is hurting every country not just ours...so i don't believe it will be economic.
this country is going to be judged more harshly than any other out there. we are the richest country by far, our military is the best and our religion is the stongest. those who have much...much more will be required. and by that verse alone in the bible we are failing miserably. prostitution, porn, false prophets, greed.... a person could list sins by the dozens and we'd probably lead that category. not to say every other country doesn't sin, it's just that according to our religion and status in the world we should know better according to the bible. we just don't care. we're in the "it's all about me" generation. we're headed for something amazing biblically. for those of you who are saved and know the Lord in your hearts..congratulations. for those who don't have time or just don't care....just look around. whether you want to believe in Him or not you know something's going on. crack open the bible and read revelation, daniel and isaiah. this is no doubt a road map we're on. step by step we're fulfilling prophecies. you won't hear that on the nightly news. instead you'll only hear scoffing and constant bashing of christianity.


You all only part right. America is part of Great Babylon but only a part. The end time power is made up of three parts. They are the dragon, the beast, and the false prophet. The dragon is the civil power, the beast is a religious power and the false prophet is a deceiving power.

The dragon is the U.N.
The beast is the Vatican
The false prophet is the USA

These powers will be brought down by Islam at the end of time represented by a horse. Jesus will use Islam to bring down the beast and the false prophet. The dragon is brought down later.

As we all know the dragon is Satan. This is the primary defination but the secondary is the Pagan Roman Empire or a civil power.
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Postby A Person » Wed Mar 11, 2009 3:42 am

what time is it? wrote:when the rapture happens, millions will disappear from this country alone. more so than any other country on the planet.


The Atheist's Prayer.

Please God, come and git 'em. Now! They're ready, primed and we don't want them. They're not doing anything useful here, let them screw Heaven up for you as they have screwed up this Earth for us.

We think of them as the Golgafrincham B Ark. Preparing Heaven for the rush when the A and C Arks arrive, provided we aren't wiped out by a virulent telephone disease.

Amen
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Postby Liv » Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:36 am

Yeah the whole biblical story makes for some twisted version of the movie "The Island"... probably what they were thinking when they made the movie....

I mean... How do they all know... it's not all a big lie... and Heaven is actually hell... That God is the bad guy, and the Devil.... (which supposedly is me... oh never mind)... is actually good?
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Postby Nfidel » Wed Mar 11, 2009 2:47 pm

A Person wrote:
We think of them as the Golgafrincham B Ark. Preparing Heaven for the rush when the A and C Arks arrive, provided we aren't wiped out by a virulent telephone disease.

Amen

Heaven can certainly use the hairdressers.
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Postby Questioner » Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:01 pm

My! How ethnocentric we are! I wonder why Americans assume the biblical prophecies, Nostradamus' prophecies, and the end time blather all refers to America! We are a little, short-lived experiment in self rule, and not the majority of people on the planet by any count. Why assume America is so important? How silly!
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Postby A Person » Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:35 pm

For much the same reason that an insignificant tribe of ex-slaves decided that they were God's chosen people.
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Postby CK » Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:29 am

I do believe, 95 % or more, that America is Babylon. Why ? It says, in Revelation 14 I believe, there are 3 angels. The first angel speaks of proclaiming to the whole world. The second angel, Fallen is Babylon the Great, then the third angel speaks of the mark of the beast. The bible is being proclaimed in ALL the world. IT has almost reached every corner of earth. They are dropping radio with gospel transmissions in very remote areas. Then, FALLEN is Babylon the great ? Who could this be ? Rome or the Catholic church won't fall ? They are all over the place. Even if it was the Vatican, the rest of the churches all over the world would still be able to carry on. Babylon can't be "Satan's system" because the devil is in hell. He is already fallen. Makes sense, right? So, I think, it is America because of this. It can't be the world that the bible speaks of. Paul says, I believe, We are in the world, not of the world. SO, we can be in, but not of. Rev. 17 or 18 says, of babylon, "Come out of her my people" We can't just up and leave earth on our will. Also, we know it says, SO that you do not recieve her plagues or take part in her sins. Well, we also know that if you recieve the mark, you will recieve plagues.

I think too, it says, give her double. How long have we said God Bless America and aborted children. We can't see the effects of this daily as we walk down the street. How would anyone ever know if a woman had an abortion unless she said she did? We can see homosexuality in the culture, not all of it, but alot. However, no one can see abortion. I think the number is up to 50 million or something amazing. Now, every pharmacy carries the pill or close to it. God won't tolerate it anymore. America also is proud. IN proverbs it says there are 7 things God hates. Two times it mentions lying, once shedding innocent blood and once a proud look. So 2 of the 7 are pride and shedding innocent blood. America is proud. It is currently in a total crisis. There is alot of confusion, the dollar will fall to nothing soon.

All we can do is keep our hope in the Lord. He healed the blind. God's people are about to come under persecution her in America. Watch and pray is something else it says in the gospels so that you may escape these things. I do believe America is no longer a safe country to live in. Perhaps a third world country or Israel. God will defend Israel and bless her in the coming days. But, if God wants me here, here I will stay.

Also, look at all the things going on in nature. God moves the wind. Now there is a new kind of cloud. ? There have been several earthquakes. The swine flu came from Mexico and right afterwards, an earthquake hit mexico city. Only God can shake the earth like that. HE is warning the world. This is what was written in Matthew 24. Earthquakes, famines. Famine is coming to America, soon. You should stock up food if you can.
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Postby BabylonHasFallen. » Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:05 pm

If God has given you the insight into his word you will understand that he does not speak literally. Nothing promised by the Lord comes easily, so why then, would you expect the names of nations in revelations to be given clearly and specific? John was shown a vision. A vision of a great city falling. A city that was at the top of world trade status. A city that harbored sin and ungodliness. In John's time, this was Babylon. In our time, this city is.....you guessed it, America. If you believe in the prophesy coming true in our time, then Babylon being the target of downfall would contradict the qualities of the chosen corrupt nation depicted in Revelations. So, in conclusion, you have to agree that 'Babylon' is nothing more than title, or a name. A name given to the chosen nation, city or country that awaits downfall. All that is left to do, is decide which one fits the description best. And in my eyes, America fits better than any other puzzle piece on the globe.
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Postby Nfidel » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:50 pm

The BEAST will very quickly conquer 1/4th of the world with many miracles


Tell you what, since there's never been one confirmed miracle I'm not gonna worry just yet. Get back to me when you have a few.
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Postby A Person » Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:49 am

PROPHETIC774 wrote:Hi, ... 6925 words later ... WORD


Er, what was the question again? {in AD 96}
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Postby Hi » Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:07 am

Look at what Dimitri Duduman and William Branham says. That will explain about this subject. The whore in Revelation is mystery Babylon, and the antichrist will first work with the ten different kings of the Roman empire, that is explain by the ten toes of the statue in Daniel, then those kings will give their power to the antichrist, and destroy mystery Babylon, then antichrist will destroy three of those kings, from Egypt, Libyia, and Ethiopia. There will then be 7 kings left, and the antichrist is the eighth, and more nations will experience devastation through this remaining Roman kingdom. Don't take the mark of the beast, are you will not escape wrath from Eloheem(God). Believe in Yeshua Meshiach(Jesus Christ) that he is Yahveh(Lord), and follow Him totally as much as you can through faith, and grace. The time is coming be prepared.
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Postby Mar23 » Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:00 am

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Do you get a woody when you post stuff like this? :roll:



WHY DO LOW LIFE PIGISH MORONS LIKE YOU EVEN BOTHER SEARCHING AND READING CHRISTIAN STUFF? HOW CAN IT INTEREST SOMEONE LIKE YOU. IT DOESN'T APPLY TO YOU. YOU'RE GOING TO END UP WHERE YOUR BUDDY (SATAN) IS GOING. THEN HE'LL CRAP ALL OVER YOU (AND WORSE), LIKE YOU DO WITH EVERYONE ELSE. SORRY BUDDY.
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Postby Liv » Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:04 pm

Mar23 wrote: THEN HE'LL CRAP ALL OVER YOU (AND WORSE)


I suspect city sanitation workers are like "I'm already there dood."
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Postby A Person » Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:07 pm

Mar23 wrote:THEN HE'LL CRAP ALL OVER YOU (AND WORSE), LIKE YOU DO WITH EVERYONE ELSE.


SATAN WILL DO LIKE I DO WITH EVERYONE ELSE?

OMFG

He'll use... sarcasm. He knows all the tricks, dramatic irony, metaphor, bathos, puns, parody, litotes and... satire. And maybe Photoshop too....






Sounds a blast. Can't wait. Beats floating around on clouds playing a harp and feeding domineering women cream cheese sandwiches
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Postby SouthernFriedInfidel » Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:15 pm

A Person wrote:
Mar23 wrote:THEN HE'LL CRAP ALL OVER YOU (AND WORSE), LIKE YOU DO WITH EVERYONE ELSE.


SATAN WILL DO LIKE I DO WITH EVERYONE ELSE?

OMFG

He'll use... sarcasm. He knows all the tricks, dramatic irony, metaphor, bathos, puns, parody, litotes and... satire.

Sooooo... Satan is a Piranha Brother? He's worse than Doug, you think? :lol:
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Postby A Person » Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:18 pm

Oh- the sarcasm. Brings grown teabaggers to their knees. (mind you that is their natural posture)
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Postby joe knows » Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:09 pm

actually, its east of New York City, and its called 'West' Babylon, lol
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Postby Knower » Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:58 pm

i only know jesus spoke of mockers and scoffers in the end....but their words are merely recorded and measured for the judgement day.....

It is written in the gospel " man shall give account for every idle word he shall speak in the judgement"...so mock all you want..it is just ammunition for your own end demise. :(

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom..proverbs

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