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Dental Adventures in Greensboro... In search of a Dentist

by Questioner | Published on January 27th, 2009, 7:56 pm | Greensboro
Liv wrote:Okay I'm still looking but I got a hold of one SFI recommended... and have an appointment for next week... I'm still looking for something sooner.... but atleast I have an appointment....

They want $200.00 for extraction and x-rays.....

Remind me why I need X-rays?

For your safety. In some cases, a tooth root can be curved inside the jawbone, and extraction must be done very carefully lest the jawbone be damaged. Just yanking out a tooth in an adult without knowing what you are getting into can sometimes lead to unpleasant complications. Usually that won't happen, but the dentist wants to make sure he/she doesn't cause you additional complications. Good luck!
 
 
Liv wrote:Well I still have the appointment for next week... Shannon tried calling around while frankly I went into a coma this afternoon on the couch, but had no luck.... I'm a bit lucid right now, and tried to eat some gumbo concoction Shannon made for me so I didn't have to chew much.... It's the first thing I've ate in awhile...

I'm going to continue to try tomorrow, and see if I can find someone....

This is an absolute disgrace. America should hang its head in shame. You deserve to be given good and immediate care for this situation. It is a dental emergency. If you were a dog, the ASPCA would take you in and get you immediate care. But here in the U.S. you, a human being--which some people claim is more valuable than an animal--have been forced into waiting days and not being provided with decent care. It makes me ashamed of the U.S. health care system.
January 27th, 2009, 8:04 pm
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I tried the Merce Clinic this morning.... it's a sliding scale clinic, but you have to prove eligibility, and for that you have to set up an appointment... which is Monday.... then I'm not sure if it will be any cheaper then a regular dentist....
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January 28th, 2009, 9:27 am
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Liv
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Location: Greensboro, NC
Remind me again why you just can't go to the emergency room? Don't they have to admit you?
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January 28th, 2009, 10:55 am
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Liv wrote:I tried the Merce Clinic this morning.... it's a sliding scale clinic, but you have to prove eligibility, and for that you have to set up an appointment... which is Monday.... then I'm not sure if it will be any cheaper then a regular dentist....

From what you've posted, Liv, I'd say you need to get thee off to Chapel Hill. They'll take you in and give you the work you need. Dammit, don't let it go into next week if at all possible.
January 28th, 2009, 11:53 am
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SouthernFriedInfidel
 
Location: 5th circle of hell -- actually not very crowded at the moment.
Sanjuro wrote:Remind me again why you just can't go to the emergency room? Don't they have to admit you?

No, they don't. You are thinking of EMTALA (Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act) which requires the emergency room to provide emergency treatment for any condition that is immediately life threatening. Unfortunately, the tooth doesn't fit into that category.
January 28th, 2009, 1:13 pm
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Questioner wrote:
Sanjuro wrote:Remind me again why you just can't go to the emergency room? Don't they have to admit you?

No, they don't. You are thinking of EMTALA (Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act) which requires the emergency room to provide emergency treatment for any condition that is immediately life threatening. Unfortunately, the tooth doesn't fit into that category.


Sorry, but Ive seen what an infection can do. That can kill. But I guess that would be a loose interpretation at best.
January 28th, 2009, 1:27 pm
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Sanjuro
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UNC has a waiting list, if that's what your talking about....

Emergency Room would probably give me some ibuprofen and tell me to contact my dentist.
January 28th, 2009, 6:39 pm
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Liv
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Location: Greensboro, NC
Try 1-800-DENTURE.
January 28th, 2009, 6:46 pm
wrrr
 
wrrr wrote:Try 1-800-DENTURE.



Thanks!!! I'm going to call this guy tommorow:

$75.00 is much more reasonable....
January 28th, 2009, 7:16 pm
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Liv
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Location: Greensboro, NC
Does that include Novocain?
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January 28th, 2009, 7:33 pm
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A Person wrote:Does that include Novocain?

My dentist uses Lidocain... I think it's supposed to be a better drug for locals.
January 29th, 2009, 8:06 am
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SouthernFriedInfidel
 
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It was a joke.

$75 sounds too cheap, so I was wondering what was not included. For any professional, $75 buys 15-20 minutes of their time at most.
January 29th, 2009, 10:51 am
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Well I called them, and they said that you show up at 6:30AM an line up out front, and they take the first 45 people in....

I feel like I live in a third world nation..... I've got my ENT appointment today, but I may try to go to that one on Monday.... unless I come up with something else.
January 29th, 2009, 12:22 pm
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Liv
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Liv wrote:Well I called them, and they said that you show up at 6:30AM an line up out front, and they take the first 45 people in....

I feel like I live in a third world nation..... I've got my ENT appointment today, but I may try to go to that one on Monday.... unless I come up with something else.



Cool, make sure you try to score some orchestra seat tickets.. oh wait, we are talking about motherfucking healthcare in the US. AAAUUGHHH!!!!! Its maddening. Good luck Liv!
January 29th, 2009, 1:07 pm
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It's so funny... I keep thinking about that Michael Moore movie... and how most Americans complain how they don't want to be like Canada and their "waiting list" for medical care..... but yet.... that's what we have....

I must admit if I had a usual dentist they might be more willing to provide to me quicker... but who can afford dentistry? My health care program at work would have been like an additional 80.00 a check with a 250.00 deductible for dental... which as you can imagine... I declined.....

Though as I understand it, NHS isn't much better over in Britain.... Atleast they can get better over-the-counter meds though.
January 29th, 2009, 1:15 pm
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Liv
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Just had my own run-in with American health care last night. I went to a doctor, got a prescription, which they said they'd fax to the pharmacy of my choice. Went to pick it up... only to be told that I'd have to wait, because my pharmacy insurance won't pay for it without prior approval. So I have to get my doctor to convince the insurance company that I really, REALLY need the medication. Otherwise, the charge will be $110 for the GENERIC version of the drug. :shock: :evil: :?
January 30th, 2009, 7:58 am
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Liv wrote:Yeah... well the Cigna (expletive) are getting me fired as we speak... Even though I have medical notes writing me out of work, apparently it's not "the right kind" of note.... and I've been given my last rites at work.... unless I get it fixed...

On top of it... because of this, my health care will be retroactively inactive so all this "care" I've been getting will be rebilled to me...

This is why I hate the US sometimes.... I'm so sick of it... so damn sick of it.



Un-freaking real. Looks like they finally got the excuse they've been looking for.
January 30th, 2009, 3:59 pm
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My doctor puts a smile face on her work notes, and Cigna said "a professional doctor would have never put that on their notes... you must have forged it."....

I'm waiting for the Doc to call me, I drove down there.... but it isn't looking good. Honestly I wasn't planning on staying after all this due to what they pulled at the funeral.... but still.... I'd like to make sure I'm medically sound before I abandon all health care....
January 30th, 2009, 4:02 pm
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Liv
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Liv wrote:My doctor puts a smile face on her work notes, and Cigna said "a professional doctor would have never put that on their notes... you must have forged it."....

I'm waiting for the Doc to call me, I drove down there.... but it isn't looking good. Honestly I wasn't planning on staying after all this due to what they pulled at the funeral.... but still.... I'd like to make sure I'm medically sound before I abandon all health care....


jesus, I hate your employer.
I hope you can get this straightened out ASAP.

In the meantime, this is something you ( and other North Carolinians) need to know about: http://www.nchirp.org/

"Inclusive Health, also known as the North Carolina Health Insurance Risk Pool (NCHIRP), provides affordable, individual health insurance coverage for North Carolinians who do not have access to an employer health plan and face higher premiums due to a pre-existing medical condition. It will also offer coverage to individuals who are federally defined HIPAA eligibles or qualify due to loss of employment due to the effects of international trade under the Health Coverage Tax Credit. Inclusive Health was created by the North Carolina General Assembly in 2007, and will begin accepting enrollment applications in the fall of 2008 for an effective date of January 2009. "

unfortunately this may not help Liv but it might help somebody reading greensboring
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January 30th, 2009, 4:43 pm
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jesus, I hate your employer.
I hope you can get this straightened out ASAP.


I hate them a bit too... it doesn't help the HR rep has on numerous occasions stated she thinks "married Lesbians" are gaming the system...

They're out to get me, I accept that.. I knew that when this began... Honestly I couldn't care about the job... it's being called a liar that pisses me off....

Apparently I'm supposed to be at work despite me doctors have wrote me out... and I can't talk very clearly, and I'm on massive amounts of Vicodin...

I'm done... I'm so done... I'll fight this one just to get the bills paid.... but I'm tired, I'm worn out, and frankly I'm not happy....
January 30th, 2009, 4:59 pm
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Liv
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Location: Greensboro, NC
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I knew this morning was going to be a toughy. I some how had to manage to fall asleep without taking any vicodin for the pain, so I could wake up sober a capable of operating a motor vehicle at 5:00am and stand in line with 45 other individual so I might be able to have a tooth extracted.

I mentioned it yesterday, but it's worth repeating; because every minute of the day I kept thinking about how Americans keep telling themselves they don't want to be like those socialist Europeans and be on waiting lists for health care.

I thought this would make an excellent post, not so much as it's any different then anything I've written before... but because I'm experiencing it... and because, frankly it's very important to me. I was smart enough to take the digital camera for the fun of it. I was stupid enough to realize it was dark when I left, and even when I got there it was still pitch black.

First let me say, if you need a cheap dentist and live in Greensboro... this is pretty damn nice option. It's cheap, it's clean and it's in an area of town which won't require you to carry the stun gun or mace.

I woke up a 5AM, stumbled to the shower, got ready... and was in the car by ten of 6. Stuck my key in the ignition and fired the six sleeping cylinders of my Ford. Pulled out of the driveway, and drove to the freeway with nobody, absolutely nobody on the road. 30 Minutes later I exited the west side of the bypass, got off on Sandy Ridge road and saw for the first time the dental office & a huge 1-800-Denture sign. The parking lot was packed with cars.

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For a moment I wanted to say "screw it" and find another option, but I convinced myself... just to get it done. So how the whole process works is you show up at 6:30 and if you're one of the lucky first 45 people in line, then you get to have someone rip teeth out of your skull and charge you for it. I was fortunate to be number 20 in a line of mostly senior citizens which snaked around the waiting room and out into the parking lot. I grabbed a magazine and waited about 25 minutes to get the first timer clip board to fill out. Memories of riding the tube came to mind: cramped, lots of reading, lack of eye contact, and keep to yourself. I was the only one fortunate enough to figure this out. Technically I think I might have been the only one with vision left, as most stared off into space or watched the television playing WFMY. So I filled out the clip board, finished reading the magazine, broke out the cell phone and played Tetris another hour or so. About 8:30 they call me back. I take my ear-rings out, as instructed, and am given a lead vest which doesn't fit. My head is squeezed in a X-Ray machine and it begins rotating around my head. It then rams into my head, begins making funny "Wall-E" sounds, then beeps and goes the other way before slamming into the other side of my head. It's at this point I'm advised to go back to the waiting room for my Polaroid to develop. Another 30 minutes or so go by and I'm called back again. This time they put the oral spit bib on and sit me down in the "chair of doom". 10 minutes pass and the Dentist arrives, looks in my throat and says there's nothing he can do here, "You'll need an oral surgeon." Another 10 minutes and I have a referral letter, a prescription for more vicodin and more Amoxicillin, and I'm standing in queue to pay $100.00. That's $25.00 for the visit, and $75.00 for the x-ray if you're keeping score.

It's about 9:30am when I make it back to my car now a $100.00 poorer but with a gorgeous photo of my teeth. I get home and call the oral surgeon's receptionist. I cringe in an expectation for an estimate. $75 for the consult, $350 for 30 minutes of anaesthesia, and $540.00 per tooth... all which isn't covered under my HMO. Oh and did I mention the Dentist states I'll need more than 1 removed. Apparently Wisdom teeth grow in families.

I'm better off then a lot of people out there, so I've got to wonder... how do people afford this stuff? This is America? This is health-care? This is a joke, is what it is!

I remember this time last year when we were preparing for our trip to London, one piece of travel information was "medical emergencies" and that if a dental emergency arose abroad, it could be cared for, for free; if you could get to a NHS dentist. Knowing what I know of NHS that's easier said then done.... but at least the idea seems sound in concept. I suppose if it worked well, a lot of people would be flying there just to have their teeth fixed. The idea has crossed my head.

So I'm tired, still infected, poorer then I was 12 hours ago, and ready to scream. I think it's time to resort to vice-grips and vodka... If only there was a waiting list I could be on instead.
February 2nd, 2009, 2:09 pm
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Liv
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Location: Greensboro, NC
The costs are shocking.
I have found getting a NHS dentist easy in the U.K
My last visit was for a tooth removal and cost £60 ($90), this included the X rays. I really can't understand how American dentists can justify the costs, but I guess they don't have to.

The hospitals are as bad. I remember my partner's ear infection costing me $500 and all it involved was a 15min appointment and some antibiotics. Having just arrived in the USA I asked how much it would be before she saw a doctor and they wouldn't even tell me the minimum cost, as I would have left immediately if I knew.
February 2nd, 2009, 4:08 pm
smiler125
 
Location: Bristol, England
take a look a http://www.dentalholiday.co.uk and you'll soon see one of the best British accredited dental clinics abroad. I'd recommend anyone to go there.
February 3rd, 2009, 11:48 am
danielshaw
 
Hey Liv, where did you get your teeth done?

Oh Slovakia....

It was cheaper then my local dentist...

I'm all for it... Mr Shaw, want to trade some free links on this site, for some dental work?
February 4th, 2009, 9:35 am
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Liv
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Location: Greensboro, NC

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