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Best Practices for Publishing on Greensboring.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:45 pm
by Liv
So you wanna publish on The Greensboring?

I will likely link to this in the various forums, but I felt I needed to address an issue in writing, not generally a problem with our typical writers, but that occasionally occurs among our drive-by-posters. Sanjuro has asked for less "cut-and-paste" in the past, and I as well concur that in order to survive the shifts going on in the internet, we must maintain a quality publication.

Rather than keep you guessing, Sumofyourfears, posted a "Liv is a coward" post the other day, because I deleted his overtly racist, copy-and-past article, and he discovered it. I immediately deleted it, and this is in response to that. Effective immediately, I would encourage content to be original and unique, and racist, hatred, or xenophobic topics will be deleted.

SouthernFriedInfidel is a GOOD example of how we all should be writing. Clear concise titles that sum up the article, with little on no copied text from other articles. (SFI generally links to the article, rather than reposts it which is a good method.)

Example

Any copied text (quotes, snippets, etc.) from other websites should be placed within quote-tags and cited as necessary (most of us do that already) and should adhere to 1-2 sentences. Search engines are currently cracking down on "copied texts", and unfortunately this is an easy adjustment for us all (me included). I realize there are exceptions, and if you can defend the need for additional quotations, do it, but place it in the quotes brackets.

Internal quotes (content originating from other Greensboring members on this site) are fine, though quoting pages of previous content seems superfluous and may be edited by moderators. In general, when quoting our own content try to aim at being clear and concise with other members simply as a courtesy.

Example of a bad quote:
Take a look at the lawman
Beating up the wrong guy
Oh man! Wonder if he'll ever know
He's in the best selling show
Is there life on Mars?

It's on Amerika's tortured brow
That Mickey Mouse has grown up a cow
Now the workers have struck for fame
'Cause Lennon's on sale again

See the mice in their million hordes
From Ibeza to the norfolk broads
Rule Britannia is out of bounds
To my mother, my dog, and clowns


An example of a good quote:

Is there life on Mars? -David Bowie


Article-Leads (first posts) [aka proto-posts] should be a minimum of 2-3 sentences of unique thought or opinion in addition to any quotes, with quote content not exceeding (percentage wise) the amount of "original" content.

The bottom line is, there's no need for us to host content elsewhere on the web. We can comment, or post opinion on it, referencing it with a URL.

Here's a good example of what we should strive for:
good example.jpg


Notice most of the content is original, and the text that is quoted from another site is minimal, and a proper link is given. (The link can remain in the quote if necessary.)

Here's a bad example:

bad example.jpg


Notice how the only original text is the single line at the bottom: "What do you think you commie socialist nazi kkk peoples?"

This is why Summy's post was deleted, and for no other reason. I want to move forward making this as much of a quality website as possible. I truly think we have an opportunity to do so, but in the past we've allowed a bit too much extremism to ruin discussion.

Remember that these are just guidelines, that can help us all be on the same page, and should give us all a sense of comfort knowing what to expect from each other.

Re: Best Practices for Publishing on TheSecularity.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:28 pm
by BHL
Quite honestly Liv, if you want to improve the quality of the website and encourage others to visit and post, you really need to take site back to its roots. I started posting here because the site was visually eye-friendly, intuitive, and there were lots of posters with interesting ideas and such. Now, and sorry if I offend, the site is quite ugly, counter intuitive and posts are far and few in between. I think you've tried to do too much and it just isn't working. I used to think you had one of the very best forums (visually and interactively). The visual appeal is gone now and interactiveness disappeared for reasons I really just don't have the energy to go into just now.

Re: Best Practices for Publishing on TheSecularity.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 1:57 am
by Liv
Thank you for your opinion. It's constantly evolving, unfortunately I'm leaving for Brussels in a couple weeks (temporarily), so it will likely be the first of the year before there's any changes design-wise.

There are a lot of technical challenges which have occurred in the last few years that have driven the changes, but it's always fluid.

I can't really say where it will go in the future, but I do suspect, originality will help us get there no matter what.

Re: Best Practices for Publishing on TheSecularity.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:55 am
by thesumofyourfears
Liv wrote:
Rather than keep you guessing, Sumofyourfears, posted a "Liv is a coward" post the other day, because I deleted his overtly racist, copy-and-past article, and he discovered it. I immediately deleted it, and this is in response to that.


Can you show us proof or "overtly racists?"

Liv wrote:Notice how the only original text is the single line at the bottom: "What do you think you commie socialist nazi kkk peoples?"

This is why Summy's post was deleted, and for no other reason. I want to move forward making this as much of a quality website as possible. I truly think we have an opportunity to do so, but in the past we've allowed a bit too much extremism to ruin discussion.

Remember that these are just guidelines, that can help us all be on the same page, and should give us all a sense of comfort knowing what to expect from each other.


You are pathetic editor, libby. You deleted my post purely because I took you and A-Fraud to the cleaners, spoke the truth, which you danced and dodged around it. Your are the real feminazi to delete my post. You have no proof my comments were racists and you know it. I exposed you and your ilks lies and you just couldn't handled it, eh? Now you hide behind this cloak of "high editorial standards" for pure political expediency. Not to mention you hide this in "Life" tab. You are a sad excuse for and blog editor. You know full well that there will be others who oppose and disagree. What is the point of this or any other board to delete those who disagree with you. Glad you are not president. The left proves itself every day they are against free speech in the Leninist/Marxist tradition.

Re: Best Practices for Publishing on TheSecularity.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:21 pm
by Liv
Sum Sum, I'm sorry you feel this way, but I'm not comfortable with posting what I consider hate online.

Your free to contribute given the above guidelines just like anyone else.

It's not easy making these decisions, many people dislike some of word censors, and I try to find a happy medium... but civil responsibility is a part of public behavior.... (something your party is supposedly based on), and if I think a particular post is contributed only to perpetuate hate, racism, or xenophobia, I'm inclined to remove it.

It's all about intention, rather than strict rules.

Re: Best Practices for Publishing on TheSecularity.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:56 pm
by A Person
You continue to demonstrate that you don't understand simple concepts (and also that you have the charm and personality of an anal fistula).

Your constitutional right to 'free speech' does not mean that individuals and businesses have an obligation to provide you with a platform to spew your mindless 'femiNazi' 'demoncraKKK' 'Fecalhead' 'libtard' spittle flecked rants, consequence free. Liv bears the costs of hosting the site, and the liability for anything you post. Your posts could cause the site to be black-listed as a hate site - and it's expensive and time consuming to get yourself removed from the black list. Besides, your throwing shit on the wall makes the place look and smell bad. (Maybe you could take yourself to the cleaners)

You're free to post on Moonbattery where your brand of fascist racism is welcomed, or even to host your own site - or course that wouldn't be free, but maybe you'll learn an important lesson on the value of things.

You're freeloading and you have the Randian hypocrisy to complain that the tit you're sucking on isn't to your liking. If you don't like the taste of the free food at the soup kitchen then don't complain, stop being a bum and buy your own.

Re: Best Practices for Publishing on TheSecularity.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:07 pm
by thesumofyourfears
Liv wrote:Sum Sum, I'm sorry you feel this way, but I'm not comfortable with posting what I consider hate online.

Your free to contribute given the above guidelines just like anyone else.

It's not easy making these decisions, many people dislike some of word censors, and I try to find a happy medium... but civil responsibility is a part of public behavior.... (something your party is supposedly based on), and if I think a particular post is contributed only to perpetuate hate, racism, or xenophobia, I'm inclined to remove it.

It's all about intention, rather than strict rules.



Blah blah blah. Don't patronize me. I asked you to show proof of racism in my posts or stop deleting. BACK UP WHAT YOUR SAY OR YOUR ARE JUST BLOWING SMOKE. You are lying through your teeth. You and A-effing-Fraud made contributions to it, so by de facto, you are your own description.

Re: Best Practices for Publishing on TheSecularity.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:09 pm
by thesumofyourfears
A Person wrote:You continue to demonstrate that you don't understand simple concepts (and also that you have the charm and personality of an anal fistula).

Your constitutional right to 'free speech' does not mean that individuals and businesses have an obligation to provide you with a platform to spew your mindless 'femiNazi' 'demoncraKKK' 'Fecalhead' 'libtard' spittle flecked rants, consequence free. Liv bears the costs of hosting the site, and the liability for anything you post. Your posts could cause the site to be black-listed as a hate site - and it's expensive and time consuming to get yourself removed from the black list. Besides, your throwing (expletive) on the wall makes the place look and smell bad. (Maybe you could take yourself to the cleaners)

You're free to post on Moonbattery where your brand of fascist racism is welcomed, or even to host your own site - or course that wouldn't be free, but maybe you'll learn an important lesson on the value of things.

You're freeloading and you have the Randian hypocrisy to complain that the tit you're sucking on isn't to your liking. If you don't like the taste of the free food at the soup kitchen then don't complain, stop being a bum and buy your own.


As for you, you participated in discussion of those two posts. If it is what commie libby falsely claims, then why did you participate? I blew all of your lies out of the water in those two posts. I have a hunch another reader came along and read them and agreed and it embarrassed libby so she deleted. You and your ilk are the hatemonger spew lies about Palin, Bush, Romney and conservatives in general and you have then nerve to criticize me? You are A-effing Fraud.

Re: Best Practices for Publishing on TheSecularity.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:31 pm
by Liv
I am so completely convinced Summy is a character that someone made up.... there's nobody, seriously, no one I've ever met quite like you.

Re: Best Practices for Publishing on TheSecularity.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 1:50 am
by A Person
You mean - like one of the Mr Men?

That would make him

Mr-Asshole.jpg
Mr Asshole


But there are plenty more like him who hang out in Moonbattery & Red State.

Re: Best Practices for Publishing on TheSecularity.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 8:31 am
by SouthernFriedInfidel
Sadly, I'm afraid AP is right. I've actually had lunch with people who think and talk more or less like Summy. There's no way to converse with such people, not in anything remotely approaching "rational" at any rate. They have chosen to identify themselves personally and totally with some of the most insane, hateful, and above all insular rubbish that has been cooked up for consumption ever presented to the public at any point in history, that I've ever heard of.

To try and change this sort of mind is to invite it to commit the worst sort of violence against itself imaginable... it would never agree to consider anything that doesn't fit the narrative it sees the world with. I wonder how far such minds could be pushed toward the brink of anarchy and chaos... and for what? Just to get a black family out of the White House? It's a tragedy that boggles my mind.

Re: Best Practices for Publishing on TheSecularity.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:00 am
by thesumofyourfears
Exactly what I expected...more dodging and avoiding the question; GOT PROOF?

Re: Best Practices for Publishing on TheSecularity.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 1:07 pm
by Liv
Walk in my shoes for a week Sum, and I'll show you a whole new world.

Re: Best Practices for Publishing on TheSecularity.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 2:56 pm
by SouthernFriedInfidel
Don't offer Summy your shoes. He'll just whiz on them and try to gnaw your foot off as well.

Re: Best Practices for Publishing on TheSecularity.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:09 pm
by A Person
He's more likely to run away with them, all the while complaining about how ugly and uncomfortable they are.

Re: Best Practices for Publishing on TheSecularity.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:14 pm
by Liv
Catch a flight Summy, I'll show you Brussels... love for you to see how the rest of the world works.

Re: Best Practices for Publishing on TheSecularity.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:53 am
by thesumofyourfears
SouthernFriedInfidel wrote:Sadly, I'm afraid AP is right. I've actually had lunch with people who think and talk more or less like Summy. There's no way to converse with such people, not in anything remotely approaching "rational" at any rate. They have chosen to identify themselves personally and totally with some of the most insane, hateful, and above all insular rubbish that has been cooked up for consumption ever presented to the public at any point in history, that I've ever heard of.

To try and change this sort of mind is to invite it to commit the worst sort of violence against itself imaginable... it would never agree to consider anything that doesn't fit the narrative it sees the world with. I wonder how far such minds could be pushed toward the brink of anarchy and chaos... and for what? Just to get a black family out of the White House? It's a tragedy that boggles my mind.


SFIdiot: You are so dishonest here because you block my post. So how can you give honest commentary? Hypocrite.

Re: Best Practices for Publishing on TheSecularity.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:01 am
by thesumofyourfears
A Person wrote:Your constitutional right to 'free speech' does not mean that individuals and businesses have an obligation to provide you with a platform to spew your mindless 'femiNazi' 'demoncraKKK' 'Fecalhead' 'libtard' spittle flecked rants, consequence free.


But she gives you platform to call me a$$hole along with a picture. Double standard hypocrites you are.

A-Fraud the hypocrite says wrote:You mean - like one of the Mr Men?

That would make him

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But there are plenty more like him who hang out in Moonbattery & Red State.

25 Aug 2012 20:50

Re: Best Practices for Publishing on TheSecularity.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:03 am
by thesumofyourfears
Liv wrote:Catch a flight Summy, I'll show you Brussels... love for you to see how the rest of the world works.

You are the Great Obfuscator and cannot defend nothing you say. I've been to Europe in a previous career. If you can't engage in a intelligent discussion and show me how those two posts that you deleted were racist, then you've just proved your worthless editorial integrity and double standard hypocrisy, which obviously, you and your ilk here can't see.

Re: Best Practices for Publishing on TheSecularity.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:43 pm
by Liv
Frankly I just don't have time for it. I'm too busy trying to figure out WTF everyone is saying here... when I get stateside in 4 mo, I'll be glad to entertain your parade.

Re: Best Practices for Publishing on TheSecularity.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:12 pm
by SouthernFriedInfidel
thesumofyourfears wrote:SFIdiot: You are so dishonest here because you block my post. So how can you give honest commentary? Hypocrite.

Sigh... if only you were to ever say anything worth reading, things might be different. I gave up trying to hold actual conversations with you years ago. In all the time you've been blocked, not ONCE have I seen anything that makes me question my view of your posts.

Re: Best Practices for Publishing on TheSecularity.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:40 pm
by A Person
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